Larry Jewell

It does get warm. 3, 2, 1. Today, between ball games, we get a chance to visit with one of the newest pioneers, Isla Borders. And a lot of people are wondering, how did you get started in baseball? I basically grew up on a baseball field. My dad played professional baseball, you know, and basically just brought up on a baseball field, loved playing. I started playing baseball when I was 10, went all the way through the ranks, paid my dues, played little league, junior high, high school, then got a full ride scholarship to go play, you know, Division 2 baseball in college. And now this is my fourth year in professional baseball and I'm loving it. Let's back up a little bit. When you got to high school, that was kind of a pioneer situation for you there? Yeah, it's been a tough road. There's been some great things and there's been some bad things. But yeah, I was the only woman playing, you know, high school baseball even, gosh, at that point in time, there's no women playing, you know, baseball in high school. Now you got a couple, a few. So it was, it was quite difficult road. Now by the time you got to college, were you surprised that you got a college scholarship or had you anticipated that? No, I anticipated it. I believed in myself. I think what it came down to is I had good stats, good stuff. I sent out a video just in case people are thinking, girl pitcher, what's going on here? And I had five offers and I basically narrowed it down to what was the best baseball school. And I chose Southern California College. Now that's now Vanguard College, right? Vanguard University now. And I went there just because a lot of people got picked out, got picked up by baseball teams over there. It was an hour away from the house. It was right next to the beach. You can't really go wrong with those. First year at Southern California, how did the team react? How did you react? First team went really well. Our first year went really well. But middle of the road that year, a lot of resentment started to come in. You know, I'm not around professional men, you know, that are mature like I am now, was mostly around a lot of immature men. They were young, didn't know how to deal with the situation. Here I'm a freshman getting all this attention. Here they are juniors and seniors. So they did a lot of bad stuff. Now that I look back upon it, I don't think any person should go through that. But I did. Taught me a lot. And now I'm around mature men, so it's a little bit easier. Then after Southern California, you Finished at Whittier. How did that take place? Actually, you know, my freshman sophomore year were really difficult. Junior and senior year, you know, people started to know who I was, started to respect me, started to give me, you know, now you're the upperclassman, you know, you get to dish it out. But senior year at Whittier College was just by far the best experience in baseball that I've had, you know, thus far. The guys treated me great, got to actually coach a little bit, got a lot of innings in and did really well. So I was really pleased with my Whittier College experience. Let's go back a little bit more. Have you always thought that, hey, I would like to do this at the college or professional level or. When did that begin in your mind? When I was 10. You know, I knew I wanted to play professional baseball and wanted to get a win. That was my main thing, you know, and hopefully, you know, get signed by an organization. But my main goal is to play professional baseball and get a win. And I've done that. And right now I'm just trying. You know, I make goals every year, and so far I've obtained every goal that I wanted to get. And this year I'm got to try to help the Zion Pioneers out, you know, take a championship and hopefully get hooked up with a team, you know, major league organization team, just to give me a shot, that's all. When you decided, when did you tell your parents? Hey, I wanted to try this. Was it 10? Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think they knew even before that. You know, I was five years old. There's pictures of me swinging the bat, you know, and throwing the ball. I think it just comes from being from a very athletic family. And basically, that's all I knew how to do because that's where I was at. You know, every Saturday and Sunday, I go out there with my mom and dad for close to six hours each day and just play ball. Family vacations, you know, our family, you know, on the weekend, we play over the line. We're just a little different now. Your mom was a competitor, too, right? Right, right. She didn't do any professional swimming, but she loves to swim. She's great at it. That was her thing. That's what she loves to do. So. And then my dad was a professional baseball player, so those combined really have helped out. You know, me and my family, it doesn't seem like there is a political agenda, an idea of, hey, I'm doing this for women's rights. Am I wrong with that? With that Impression. This is more. I'm doing this because I enjoy baseball. Right. I think a lot of people don't understand that. I think they're thinking that it's more, you know, I'm out here for women's Right. I think that's their first impression. But I think when you come out there and you watch me and you listen to me a little bit more, you know, I'm just out here because I love baseball, and I love it when somebody says I can't do anything or I can't do it because it just. It fuels my fire, and that's what keeps me going. You never had the idea that I'm doing this because my dad really wanted a son? No, not at all. You know, there's so many misconceptions. People think that people think I do it for the media attention. People think, you know, it's a joke. But I think if you just go off of, come out there, watch me pitch. I love playing baseball. I'm not out there for women's rights out there for me. And I've been doing fairly well, fairly well lately. And I think that should speak for itself. I've got to ask you, when did you first start to get all the media attention? Was it in high school? Was it earlier? Gosh, I've had it since I was 10, you know, and I've been through everything. I've been called everything. So it's nothing new, but after a while, it's just like. It gets tiring. What's your best memory as far as an individual game from your college years? College years, I would say it was my first win. There's a lot of media, a lot of people there. We ended up beating that team, like, 12 to 1. It was just amazing. It's just a great feeling. Everything really worked out. That was my best game. And from then on, it was kind of a tough road. How did the professional career begin? I know you began with St. Paul, but how did that begin? Basically, I wanted to go to a place where people could say, you didn't get there to, you know, put people in the stand. So I figured going to St. Paul with no contract in my back pocket, having to earn it, and then by getting on the team, making the team, and St. Paul Saints, they. For three years in advance, they already sold out their season three years in advance. So I figured, hey, you know, nobody can say now that I got here to sell seats because they're already sold out three years in advance. That's why I chose the Saints and I figured to go from there. Now, from there, you went to the Duluth Superior team. How did that take place? Gosh, just really lucky. God, I met great people in Duluth. We ended up winning the 1997 Northern League championship. First year in professional baseball. It was a great experience. Just basically got traded there for another guy. I think they wanted to give me more innings. I wasn't getting enough innings in St. Paul, and then I went to Duluth and kind of got the same amount of innings, because when you're a rookie, you really don't get a lot of innings. That's true. It happens with everybody that way. Right, right. You know, a lot of people, you know, say, oh, she's not getting this. She's not getting that. I'm like, just compare me to another rookie. You know, my ERA might be a little high, but I just got out of college. I'm in, like, almost double A baseball. Give me. Give me a break. Compare me to another rookie, not to Randy Johnson. Did they use you mostly in relief, or did you start any games with Duluth? First year was relief. Second year, I started halfway in the season. That's when I picked up my win. I did really well. I actually feel more comfortable in a starting role. And then last year with Madison, I did the same thing, but they didn't want me to go too many innings. The reason for that, I don't know. But I'm just the type of player that I just want to pitch and I want to play, help my team out, and that's it. I know once you were let go by Madison, then the choice was to come back West. It seemed to be. Why did you choose the Pioneers? Well, actually, I talked to three teams, and when I talked to Pat Elster and he was just kind of telling me all the right things, you know, that here it's mostly like an organization. It's not just, you know, a ball club. He knew a lot about the game. Mike Littlewood, you know, he talked about him a little bit and how he goes about things. I just really like the conversation and what he told me. And, gosh, you guys are in first place. You're 17 and 4 and just taken care of very well, and I figured this is the place to go. Your most recent outing against Feather river, that was four and a third innings. Was that one of your longer outings? Yeah, yeah. It actually felt really great. Got my control back. I'm a control pitcher. I knew it was going to be a little tough because, you know, I didn't throw for two weeks when I first got here, but I finally got my fastball under control again and that's what made me successful. I've got to ask you, with all of the media attention with each stop now that gets to be a little bit, it seems to be a little bit of a burden to carry with you all the time. Yeah, that's, you know, that's the most difficult part, I think, just because I don't think people understand. It's the same questions, it's, you know, the same thing. I think people are looking for some sort of hidden, you know, controversy or they're always looking for a story instead of just reporting the facts. So I got kind of a little chip on my shoulder, but, you know, I'm trying to deal with it, but it's just really hard when people come up to you and ask, you know, rude questions and you have to just say a really nice answer back. And plus, you know, I got stress enough going out there and performing well, you know, when you know that the whole world knows what's going on, that's even more added stress. But it's still fun for you after all these years? Definitely, yeah. If it still isn't fun, then I wouldn't do it. Let's find out a little bit about your family. We talk about your parents. What about brothers and sisters? Are there any more baseball players on the way up? Yeah, my little brother Randall plays baseball. He was just in town, had a great time with him. He's 14, just great kid, wonderful kid. He plays every sport though. My other brother Philip, he's into the Navy, the Air Force, going into school. He's kind of, he's never really been into sports except for golf. And my sister Leah, she's playing basketball. She's got a scholarship at a JC and she's trying to go to usc, so hopefully something will work out with her. One of the things, probably you get asked a lot. Was there ever any thought about going with say the Silver Bullets, a professional women's team? No, actually there's quite a lot of stuff between them and I, I didn't choose that route just because I've always played with men much. My goal is to be a professional baseball player, make it as high up as I possibly can. If you go with the Silver Bullets, it's just a dead end street. You don't really have a chance to move up. And then they also started playing minor league teams and then they moved playing 40 to 50 year old men. And to me that's not baseball. I think they wanted to get better standings, better win a loss record instead of really putting their time in, working hard and getting better. And then when I did finally decide to go to St. Paul, I got a lot of, you know, not so great faxes and emails from them saying that I shouldn't be the one. So I'm actually happy I didn't go with them. A lot of people may wonder, what about the life outside of baseball for Isla Borders? What was your degree and what do you plan to do outside of baseball? Oh my gosh. I got my degree in kinesiology. I love kids. Wanted to go into teaching in the off season. I'm a substitute in high school, teach that and I also work at a preschool with 122 year olds. Just love kids. I think they're our future, you know, impact them in a positive way and helps out the world. But I think down the line I would actually like to stay in baseball. You know, either be a coach or coaching softball at the Division 1 school or being a pitching coach for baseball or actually maybe working with Major League Baseball Player association, you know, try to get into that. There's so many different avenues, but definitely want to stick into the game. I've got to ask you, we talk a little bit about how you answer the media, but obviously with the focus on you all of the time, how do you survive the media? Sometimes I don't, to tell you the truth. I've got great family and I've got wonderful friends that listen to me, you know, they hear the bad stuff. They hear stuff that I kind of take all my stuff out on them, you know, instead of other people. And they really, without my family and friends, I really couldn't be here because they take the bad stuff. But I'm just very lucky. What's your most pleasant surprise about baseball at the professional level? What's been the biggest surprise for you? That it's been a good surprise. A good surprise. Basically. I thought most of the baseball players in general have been really, really good. You know, I thought it was going to be mostly like college where all of them hated me. They're throwing bats and baseballs at my back or my head here. They're very supportive, really mature. It's really nice to have like I met Tippi Martinez, you know, and Randy Jones and they are praising me. I mean, I was, you know, as far as pitching is concerned, I was just like, God, that's so, that's so great. That's so wonderful that people can be open minded, you know, and see the talent that I have and let me go from there. It's just amazing. What's your best pitch? Basically my screw. Yeah. You know, I don't throw fast so I basically have to hit spots and change speeds. And with my screwball it kind of sets up my fastball and everything else kind of pitch backwards. And once again, if there was any message that you would, you always wanted to have the media ask you, you wanted to answer that question. What would that be? I don't know if I could say that. No, not all the media is bad, but I just wish some of them would stop trying to look for some controversy or reporting not the correct facts. That really bothers me, you know, and try to keep it on a positive note. You know, I'm not here trying to bring anybody down. I'm just trying to lift people up. So I just wish that they put it on more of a positive note and tell people, you know, go after their dreams and don't listen to anybody but themselves. Islay Borders thank you for being with us. Good luck with the Pioneers. Thank you. 3, 2, 1. We're visiting with manager Mike Littlewood and I know by the time this airs, Mike, this will be between ball games. So as we interview, it's before the games but let's talk a little bit about the extra day off. Does that help or hurt? You know, I think since we were ready to play and, and already here, already taken BP and found out late, I don't think it helps at all. One thing that it might help is John Mark Pichota who our new closer wasn't ready to throw last night so I think he'll be ready tonight. So in that respect it helps us. Max Trembley's arm was a little bit tender. I'm sure it's going to be better tonight. That'll help us. Jeff Garf in the pen was at a wedding last night so that will help us having him here. So the positives are simply that that Steve Cook got an extra day's rest and whether that's good or bad, who knows, we'll find out. I guess we already know. But you know, hopefully Steve will give us a good outing today. And the nice thing about it is we're playing two seven inning games and so he's already really thrown two innings for us without walking out of the mound and cut that game down. But we're going to use anybody we can to try to get a couple wins. Yuma won last night, gained a half game on us with us not playing. So we're four and a half games in front before this first game started. And if we can win two, two out of three here and two out of three against Yuma, this thing is going to be over and we really need. Yuma's playing very well. So we're going to have to go be really aggressive and just kind of like take the bull by the horns and hopefully this first game we can. They've got a left hander going, but we can be aggressive on the bases and get some guys on and steal and hit and run and do the things we like to do. I've got to ask you, let's talk about. You have three new pitchers as of this homestand. Jason Chivers, Marty Jansen, Mark Pichota. Let's talk about each one of those guys and what they bring to the Pioneers. Let's begin with Jason. Jason Chivers, big tall left hander and he was a little bit unknown coming to us. He's a guy who's been in rookie ball and a ball and that's the lowest level you can get in the minors and this league's probably better than he's played in. But I was, we threw him Saturday night and I was impressed with his stuff. The word is he walks about a guy in inning and he strikes out a guy in inning. Chris Brionis said that he really threw well and his ball moved and you know, I liked what I saw. I think he can really go in and help us. So I'm excited to have him. He's a little bit of a developmental guy. We're going to have to work with him a little bit and get him to where he's consistently throwing strikes. I think he, and we would like to see him strikeout too for every one he walks or more strikeouts to that. You know, I think a good strikeout ratio is maybe three to one to strikeout to walk ratio. So I think he just needs to improve in that area. Obviously looking at his stats, I was impressed with the way through Marty Jansen, this is a guy with major league experience. Yeah, Marty, what he's going to do is he's going to give us a real solid starter and we don't really know. I guess the advantage of having a rain out or pipe out, whatever it was yesterday, flood out is that the game is seven innings and I don't think it's almost like Marty's gone out and thrown two innings already because they're only seven inning games. Used to play in nine and so if he can give us four or five that's great. That's like going, you know, six or seven into a nine inning game. I don't think his legs will be under him to go all seven, but he's got nasty stuff. You and I talked about that a little bit before. Chris Briona said he's got the nastiest stuff he's caught this year. What he gives us is a real solid starter to go to, which we need right now. If we can get him three starts in the next 12 games, which could potentially happen. That's what we need, especially with Chris Nelson going out. Mark Pisciotta, you just met him yesterday. He showed up yesterday. What do you know about him and how impressed are you with him? I'm impressed by what I see physically. You know, six'6, 220, 230, something like that. Looking at his stats, his stats are impressive. I believe he's got major league time. He wants to be a closer and that's what we need right now. What he enables us to do is move Jeremy Thomas back into the starting role. And the way Jeremy's throwing right now, he can beat anybody in this league. And so it really shores up our starting rotation and shores up our bullpen for sure. We'll see. We haven't seen him throw yet. Mr. Maybe he'll throw. I have a feeling he will probably throw in this first game that just happened or just going to happen. So, you know, hopefully we have a chance to throw him out there because the times he's going to go out there is when we're winning in the late innings and we need him to go close down a game personality wise. With Jansen and Pichota and the fact they've been in the major leagues, will that provide leadership for this pitching staff and in what ways? I think it will definitely. We already have some guys obviously who have been there. Steve Cook's been been in the big leagues longer than anybody here. In fact, probably longer than anybody all the guys put together. He's got six and a half years in the big leagues and so we already, people already understand that. But I think just talking to Mark Pichoda, he seems like a real genuine guy, guy who just wants to come in and help this team and help himself at the same time as well as Marty. So I think more than the experience they bring, it's just the personalities that they have and they're going to be good team guys as well, you know, not come in and try to be individuals but just come in and help us and help themselves. At the same time, we got to talk about the All Stars a little bit. Two pitchers both left Anders going to the All Star Game. Brian Mazzone and Max Tremblake. Yeah. And they both. They both deserve it. There's no. No doubt about that. Max has 16 or 17 appearances already this year in 34 games. You know, it's. It's incredible, however many we play. 33, 32, but just incredible to come in almost half your games or more than half, and really get the job done for you. So he deserves it. And Brian Mazzone's been a little unlucky with us not scoring runs when he's throwing well. Had the best DRA for the first month of the season, so I'm happy for him. They both deserve it. Among the position players, Robert Murrell and Rod McCall make it. Yeah. And Robert's had a great year. You know, Rod started off real hot, was out a little bit with the knee injury. He still has a real good batting average, and it looks like his swing. His groove's starting to come back a little bit. Hitting the ball to left center with authority. Getting the ball in the air. You know, for him to be in that four or five spot for us is great. And Robert Miro just. I mean, he's hit every pitcher, every game, every time, every park, and he really hasn't gone through a lull where he hasn't swung it. So he's been a constant. He's been so good, we've moved him into the three hole for us. DG Nelson, aced out by the former major leaguer Kevin Mitchell, but he's on the reserve squad there. And an All Star. Yeah, I mean, obviously, number wise, should have definitely been in the starting lineup there. And it's kind of a travesty since we as coaches vote for it. I can't imagine any other coaches voting somebody else because of their name. So I don't know if it was the media or whoever voted. They vote also that gave Kevin a couple extra votes, but, I mean, people go to see ex major leaguers, and that's fine. And I think in his case, there might be a reason why it's X before his name. But DG deserves to be in the starting lineup, and he's helped us tremendously. I hope he just goes, and if he gets a chance, they all do. Well, I know you'll be in Sonoma county just prior to that. That will make it easier for them to travel to the All Star game. Yeah, we've already got their travel worked Out. Lena Burton at the office has already. She called me yesterday and already has that all planned and has a van waiting for them and they'll drive up there and got a flight back. So they're set, they're ready to go. Attitude wise, can this team turn it around? On the field, it looks like they have not gotten down on themselves in spite of losing 10 of 12 games. Not at all. I mean our attitude is great. We really feel like we're putting up plenty of runs to win ball games like we talked about last time. We just need to put the two together. Pitching, defense, which has always been solid for us. Defense has always been our number one strength. But we really need to put pitching and hitting together in the same nine innings and we haven't done that. Either we score 16 and give up 19 or we score one and give up two. So if we can score maybe more than the other team, that would be a big help for us. Mike Littlewood, thank you for being with us. Hope you've had good luck in the first game and good luck in the second game. Yeah, we need to try to get two tonight. That's what we want to do. It. 3, 2, 1. Visiting with manager Mike Littlewood and sometimes I feel like these last couple of days. 3, 2, 1. Zion Pioneers manager Mike Littlewood. It's good to be on the road again, isn't it? Yeah, ask me that at 11 o'clock tonight. Yeah, you know, we hit a little roadblock there down, down home for those three games and actually doesn't feel too bad to be back on the road and you know, who knows what it is about our park. We just need to, I think just play well down there. I mean that's really what it comes down to. We're pretty much in all three of those games until late innings and you know, just need to turn around a little bit tonight. Beginning to wonder if it was a lunar effect. You kept getting closer to a full moon each night. I don't know what it was. I think it was probably lack of bullpen and a lack of timely hitting more than anything. But you know, they're professionals like we say all the time and they should come back and battle tonight. And on this six game road trip, we need to win, we need to win, you know, two or three. I would like to win three or four. That would, that would give us a good opportunity. We've got, I think a nine day home stand coming up pretty soon and if you look at it really we need to win eight or nine games. This in the last, the end of this last half and to clinch this thing. So take one game at a time and see how it turns out. First half, second half puts two Bennett races together. Do you like the idea of having the first half, second half? I kind of do. You know, mentally it almost seems like it makes things shorter because we're looking at a 21 game season right now. That's the way I'm looking at it. Another thing it does is if you don't do it in the first half, you have a chance to do it again. And if the first team, if the winning team wins both halves, then you still have to play well the whole season. So I actually like the format. Take some of the pressure off in the second half if you win the first half. Yeah, you know, we're a little bit short handed right now with, with Freddy down and we're just, we just. With Tim gone, I think we just need to really battle as a team and come together and try to scratch out a couple wins while we're shorthanded. You've had another roster change since last we talked. Yeah, Glenn Spencer, we released Glenn and activated Latin and you know, I like Glenn. I thought Glenn could really play. But you know, that's what baseball's all about. You know, it's. You can't always go with the guys you like and you think and do it. Yeah, sometimes you have to go with guys who are projected a little bit higher. So I think we're still looking though. You know, we've always said we're probably one either starting pitcher or closer short. And I think right now we're probably one big. Real fast. Yeah. So it's real fast and then you throw a change up out of that same motion and the guys are way out in front. Because major league hitters will hit the best of fastball. I asked Bruce Hurst one time, I said when did you get one of those welcome to the major league tour degree? We got a sufficient F. About knee high. He said there's no way this left handed hitter was going to hit that. He's going to pull off of it. Never get anything up. He says if Steve can't hit it off the left center field for a triple, he says he slides into third base. He turns around to Carlton Fisk. He was just elected to the hall of Fame. Puts his cat fist goes. What you tell you? Welcome to the majors, you know. So it was a perfect pitch at the biggest ride. It. Looks mighty good. Hello, patrick. That's. This. It. Robert, how's your hand. Little bit, But not really dripping. Not like it was. Good. How you doing young man? Good. How you doing, Mike? The ball comes out of that tree from his hand. I can't see the thing thing at all. Late in the day. This is weird. Made a throw over last night. Then on the return throw he was like this wondering what. Dr. They had 113 of. The beautiful. Tell me when you. Good, Larry. Well, you'll see that we can get the whole thing get the whole block in 6:05. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to assemble. Ladies and gentlemen, Coming out. Facebook. I never. That. Your. Back away. Sa. What was that? Yeah, I thought he maybe quite get to it. Yeah, that short stuff. He'll make some some errors on some of the dumbest things in the most critical time. Super play. He is just amazing. He is. What's his name? Tim Cooper. Okay. He was in the Yankees organization for a while, but Derek Cuban was ahead of him. Jumped ahead of him. How you doing, Yoshi? Good, thank you. Have you been over getting baseball. Get all of those over here? Yeah, you got all. There are three of them I think right there. Sam, I. Sam, It. Feel a little better now. A new guy. This is the new guy. What? No, that's not. That's not. Is this the guy that's related to Jalen? It's. Larry. Yeah. Introduce you. Are you related to Caleb? Is that right? No, we're just friends. Just know each other? Yeah, we played actually call together San Diego. Whose organization have you been here? I was with the Indians for my seventh year with them. Then I went with the Dodgers for about two weeks. Down there. What position? I was mostly going catcher with those guys. First, third, you know. I played first and third like 15 games each off there throughout the third base one. Were you an upperclassman then when Calum was in San Diego State? Yeah. Yeah, he was a. A freshman my senior. How's it feel, Rod? That's all right. You've been a teammate with these somewhere along the line? No, just spring training. Sa. Up. Had you played with any of these other guys before? No, we were in the same organization at one time together, but never played again. Ram. It. It. Sure. Throw knuckle balls at you. What's up, mike? I wouldn't. There you go. It's close. It's close. You got it. Oh, what happened? Thank you, sir. So, current standings on there? Yep, Few more Pistos day four and Red. Nice strikeouts, Brad. More damage? No. Was it Marcus? Oh, there's Brad too. Oh, maybe it was Brad. I assumed it was Marco. Now he has two of them down there. Brad Morris. Disabled. I just saw more. I figured he went four thing. Well, he probably wasn't at six so they only had it before. Hello. How you doing? What's that? What time is it now? You know I like this fungal. For real? For hard. Okay, four of them there. So what's your magic 12? I don't have a pen. Except up there. Right. Let's do that. Our address. Can this be done in pencil? No, I got a pen in my. I got a in there too. What's that? I don't. I used to when I was younger I used to look right. You guys really know well to dodge myself. Oh yeah either. I say I don't know if you like my brother in law. I don't know what that is. What about friendship? We're definitely not related. You don't have as much pop as me. Just letting you know now. My two sons are first cousins. They do that in my class. One day somebody says only. Only in Utah, Georgia. Their mothers or sisters. Weird. Oh, He's the same that he was seen when you were a. Yeah, and both our girl, his wife and my girlfriend play softball. In the offspring on diamonds. Yeah. Yeah. He's a pretty good ballplayer. Yeah, I mean I haven't seen him since college but he's played like six, seven years in pro ball and aaa. Yeah. I think at the center spade in two years they get like 25 home runs. Which at that park is a lot. I think the regular is only one set. One of your. I remember that one. I was in that chance Glad hill heartbreak. I do too. Man. You gotta really hit it to get out of here man. I tell you what. I hit one. Yeah, he was but that's the way it goes sometimes. He gave up two home runs on me. Gave up. Cooper had a double. Cooper killed us both times. He had the own run jumper. Did now just like us. You going to have that drumsticks going tonight? I guess they're giving away 1500 stairs up here. Oh really? Yeah. So it's going to be a noisy night. That'll be fun. It. I think it was first year of the Dodgers. Maybe seventh year. Yeah, he was talking about seven years ago. He and Ron had known each other from spring training. Sure. Get ready.